Obama needs Michigan; Michigan needs Obama to denounce Kwame Kilpatrick

A few years ago, Kwame Kilpatrick represented the hip-hop generation coming of age and taking responsibility in an important way.

Now, Kilpatrick is in danger of stereotyping an important segment of the population-young African Americans interested in politics, and also bringing down Obama and the Democratic Party with him.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/24/k ilpatrick.investigation/index.html

Shows the initial charges of corruption.  Of lying and obstructing justice.  Of marital infidelity and official misconduct.

Recently, more charges have been added:

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news /story.html?id=966a7371-3491-4e2e-b9bf-1 d0c062e46ea

and as politico is reporting, there is increasing  "racial" tension between Detroit and it's suburbs:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/080 8/12433.html

3. Michigan's in play for McCain. In the year of the downturn, the hard-hit upper Midwest should be prime Obama country. Instead it's a potential minefield. Obama is still ahead by two to five points there -- similar to margins of victory enjoyed by Gore and Kerry in the last two presidential contests -- but McCain has quietly crept up over the past month and could vault ahead if he anoints ex-Gov. Mitt Romney as his running mate. Simmering tensions between predominantly black Detroit and its white suburbs could hurt Obama. And McCain's surrogates were handed a gift in the jailing of Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, an Obama supporter. "Watch Michigan -- the Democrats think they've got it but they don't," says Quinnipiac's Peter Brown, a longtime Michigan observer. "Obama should be killing [McCain] there, but there's a lot more racial tension in Michigan than in other states."
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Currently Obama has about a 3 point lead, and is under 50% in Michigan.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/ 2008/president/mi/michigan_mccain_vs_oba ma-553.html

Since I think a fair analysis of this election is:

The country wants a Democrat, but is Obama acceptable?

Barack Obama must bring REAL CHANGE to the Democratic Party and to the country.

This could and should come in the form of making sure people take personal responsibility for their actions in real and concrete ways.

The Detroit Mayor should be told to resign by Obama!

Obama should pressure the Michigan governor to remove him.  She has that power.

Obama needs to show the country that Bush type loyalty and party politics will not be tolerated in an Obama administration.

That can start with him setting the tone as the leader of our party.

We don't need to wait around for trials and long-drawn out processes to know from what is stipulated and admitted to on the record should force Kilpatrick to resign.

Spitzer resigned and he should have.
William Jefferson hasn't resigned and he should.
John Edwards should have never ran
Kwama Kilpatrick should resign also.

For the politics, we don't want to get in the Republican mode of covering up for bad actors.

But I'm arguing for a real standard of morality regardless of the politics.

Democrats should stand for honesty in government, and good family people.

We can define standards that demand that people at least be honest in their public statements, and be accountable for their actions in a way that matters: their job and money.

Obama is in danger of being grouped with people like Kilpatrick in Michigan and it might cost him the state.

If Obama makes it clear, America comes first, good government comes first, then he won't be liable for every supporters' or colleagues misstep.  

But if he is associated with them, and responds to gross bad behavior in a normal political way, then many American people will judge him to be just like the rest of them.

Obama needs to take a vacation from vacationing and

stand against Edwards
stand against Kilpatrick

and

get on offense in the POTUS race and stop playing defense.

Craig Farmer
making the word "liberal" safe again!



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Kilpatrick is a shmuck (none / 0)


   but is it Obama's place to involve himself here? What does it get him? I don't see anyone switching their support to him b/c he goes after Kilpatrick.

  Am I missing something? Why should he involve himself?

  I think he gets grouped in with him THE SECOND he comments in any way. I think he should stay away from that whole mess the way the devil stays away from Holy Water (to quote Vincent Bugliosi).


by southernman on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 03:56:18 PM EST

Re: Kilpatrick is a shmuck (1.50 / 2)

in a political sense:

he is leading by 3 points in a state that he needs.

Kilpatrick can take down the whole ship with his arrogance and the delicate "race" issues that surround this.

Obama is in a unique position to deliver a tough love message.

It is the rigth thing to do.


by yellowdem1129 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 04:32:04 PM EST
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So... (1.50 / 2)

basically, you admit that the you think Obama needs to denounce Kwame because they're both black.

true colors shining


Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008
by zcflint05 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 04:35:45 PM EST
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Re: No (none / 0)

I'm saying other people in the black community who know that Kilpatrick should resign will accept it more easily from Obama than from Granholm or others like Dingell or Levin.

Democrats have to stand up to bad behavior or else we become Rep's of 2006.

remember all of our glee from Rep's lack of personal responsiblity and enabling?


by yellowdem1129 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 04:51:04 PM EST
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Re: So... (none / 0)

Somehow I'm sure that the fact they both have penises comes into the equation if we follow yellow's prior thought processes.  


A drink whenever Palin makes a Well-argued, Semantically Intact, Logical and Lucid Argument -- or WASILLA for short.
by January 20 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 08:47:18 PM EST
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Agreed (2.00 / 1)

Obama should go no where near this. If the Governor removes the schmuck from office - so be it. Obama has no business getting involved - Michigan has rules to handle things like this and the rules will be followed.

Of course Obama is going to be asked what he thinks about the whole thing. It would be a good opportunity for Obama to state that he is not the arbiter in all things regarding race in the United States. He is a guy running for President, who just so happens to be black - thats it. I think that sentiment would be accepted across the entire electorate - white and non-white.


by johnnyappleseed on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 05:40:44 PM EST
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Re: Obama needs Michigan; (none / 0)

Ding Ding!

Round #11 begins.


by snark adam excuse on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 03:57:48 PM EST

I know why this sexual scandal happened. (2.00 / 1)

It was obviously because marriage has been weakened by the "gays".

And I wonder why Yellowdem wants Obama to denounce to Kwame? I have to admit--I've never see a racist and a homophobe on this site being taken seriously by the admins.


Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008
by zcflint05 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 04:06:29 PM EST

Re: Obama needs Michigan; Michigan needs Obama to (2.00 / 1)

Personally, as a long-time observer of the white vote, I think Obama could lock up the election if he denounced one misbehaving black person every week from now until Election Day.  But do you think it might be too obvious?


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 04:10:05 PM EST

Re: Obama needs Michigan; Michigan needs Obama to (none / 0)

But do you think it might be too obvious?

No, not at all.  Why don't we help Obama out, and start the list right now?


by snark adam excuse on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 04:12:53 PM EST
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Re: Obama needs Michigan; Michigan needs Obama to (2.00 / 1)

William Jefferson
Robert Mugabe
Barry Bonds
Chris Tucker (this one will be HUGE with white folks)

Let's keep it going...


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 04:24:54 PM EST
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Re: Obama needs Michigan; (2.00 / 4)

Snoop Dog - (Notorious Provacateur)

Duane "The Rock" Johnson  - (Last guy that should be on the list, but let's throw him on there anyway)

Denzel Washington  - (Getting edgier as he's gotten older)

Othello  - (Obvious reasons)


by snark adam excuse on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 04:37:38 PM EST
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Re: Obama needs Michigan; (2.00 / 1)

Why stop there?  As a transcendent candidate, shouldn't Obama also denounce Edwards? And Ben Afleck (did you see Gigli?)

Yellowdem, you have some serious, serious, serious issues to work out as you concern troll your way through this election.  Education cures ignorance, but I don't what cures what's ailing you.


by niksder on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 05:50:34 PM EST
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Re: Obama needs Michigan; (2.00 / 1)

- Wesley Snipes (good actor, bad book keeper)

- Michael Jackson (freak)

- Michael Vick (dog hating bastard)

- NFL Wide Receivers in general (ego maniacs, habitual law breakers)


by johnnyappleseed on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 05:52:19 PM EST
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Re: Obama needs Michigan; (none / 0)

And what do those folks have in common?


by niksder on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 09:16:51 PM EST
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Re: Obama needs Michigan; Michigan needs Obama to (2.00 / 1)

No Way. Kwame hasn't even played one game for the Pistons yet!

Denounce before giving him a chance? That is crazy.  Remember he was #1 overall draft pick. If anything can make him a player it is playing alongside da Sheed.

I'm sure Barack is looking forward to seeing Kwame out on the court.


by wrb on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 05:48:45 PM EST

Re: Obama needs Michigan; Michigan needs Obama to (2.00 / 1)

Very well played.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 05:54:56 PM EST
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Re: Obama needs Michigan; Michigan needs Obama to (none / 0)

If people would just listen to Kwame they wouldn't be so hostile

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2 008-08-06/kwame-brown-speaks/


by wrb on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 05:57:27 PM EST

Don't get involved in other people's love spats. (none / 0)

It rarely pays.


by Dumbo on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:39:39 PM EST


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